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He completely eradicated that end.

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All right, 알았어 than.

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It's time to humbly say sorry to

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There wasn't a struggle.

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Nothing was moved inside this line.

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It's like she just walked out the front door, kept walking.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade.

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I was in 10th grade when all of this transpired.

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The last morning with my mother, we got up,

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and the way she would wake me up is

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she would turn on the treadmill and start running.

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And I was here at a, you know, feet hitting the treadmill.

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We argued a little bit that morning.

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I wasn't a hurry to get to school because I,

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I was dating a girl at school, and if I could get there a little early,

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I'd get to talk to her before we got to, you know, go to class.

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She dropped me off at school.

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She told me she loved me and that she'd see me in the afternoon.

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I said, okay, I love you too.

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And that was it.

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That was the last time I talked to her.

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Later on, I was sitting in a biology class

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and a school resource officer came in

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and he said, look, come with me and took me to the office.

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And he asked me if I'd spoken with my mother.

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I said, no.

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He asked me if I had any way to get in touch with her.

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Anytime I called, if she didn't answer right away,

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she would immediately call me back.

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I called three times and got no answer.

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My mother was extremely involved in every facet of my life.

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Was at every meet, every game.

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I've never met anybody that

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always wanted the other person around her to be happy.

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Always.

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I remember from a young age, my mother had a passion to cut hair,

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to make people look beautiful.

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She loved it.

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When I was 15, it drove me crazy,

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is do your hair this way?

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Or, you know, I'm gonna try something new on your hair this week.

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So, about every other week,

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I would have a different color hair, or a different haircut,

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or a mohawk, or, you know, just something crazy.

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She worked really, really hard in other people's salons when I was younger

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and finally got to the point to where she could do it herself.

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Throughout the years, she built a business that had people coming back constantly.

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Patrice was always so much fun.

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She just was always smiling, always positive.

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She made you feel special.

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That shot was definitely her dream.

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She was really proud of that place. She really was.

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And her husband, Rob, was the one that helped her get that started.

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I'm gonna go get my hair done.

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Patrice was 30 years old when I first met her.

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I was 50, 20 years her senior.

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I was the luckiest man on this planet.

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She was renting a chair at a two-station beauty salon,

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and I was driving by and needed a haircut and stopped in.

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And that's the beginning of the story.

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I said, she's gonna be my wife.

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Seven years with Patrice, they were the best years of my life.

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I just remember the highlights and the beauty and the warmth and the love.

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The community loved Patrice.

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Some of the people, after their color or cut or whatever they had done,

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would just stay there for hours and just chat with her.

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She'd just come up to you and just throw her arms around you and just be, you know,

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I mean, she was just always like that. She just loved everybody, you know, and everybody loved her.

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I met Patrice many, many years ago as a walk-in to her shop, and we hit it off,

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and over the years we just became very close friends.

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Her shop was so close to my home, it was basically like our little hangout.

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I always went by there every afternoon. It was on my way home from work,

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and I was there the night before she went missing.

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As I was leaving that evening, she said, woman, she always called me woman,

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woman, are you coming back tomorrow?

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And I remember looking over my shoulder and saying, of course, you know, I'm gonna be here.

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I would usually call her on her cell phone, and that particular day it went straight to voicemail.

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That was odd, and by the time I got to the shop, police were there, and my heart just stopped.

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We were actually at 911 call that said a client had showed up at Patrice's hair salon, and she was missing.

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As soon as I got there, we kind of all looked at each other, and I just, I remember the eye,

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the look in each other's eyes, like, this doesn't look good.

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When the Forsyth County investigators came to Patrice's shop, the cash register was open, money was missing from the cash register,

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her purse was found inside on the counter.

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It appeared that she was warming up her lunch, it was found there on the counter by the microwave.

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The rest of her shop was unremarkable. It was Patrice's normal, clean, tidy, well-kept shop.

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You would never walk in there and say, okay, this is a crime scene.

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We found no blood, we found no overturned furniture, we found no drag marks.

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There wasn't a lot of evidence, there wasn't a lot of things to point you in one direction or another.

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When the police took me to the police car salon, there was detectives and crime scene investigators, and they were going in and out.

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And then they said, yeah, she's missing.

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Immediately I broke down, because it was like, what do you mean? I don't understand.

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No, there's no way. She'll be back. I don't know what's wrong with her cell phone, I don't know why she left, she'll be back. She's just calling somewhere for a little while.

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The day that Patrice went missing, I was at work, it was probably around two or three in the afternoon.

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In a situation like that, you don't try to think the worst, and even the remote concept that she had been murdered was just not something I was thinking about.

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When I got to Patrice's salon, they started talking to me and said, and we'll see you at the Forsyth County Sheriff's Department to interview you.

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Okay, I didn't get the bracelets, I didn't feel like a suspect, but yeah, I get it. I have a degree in criminology.

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I'm Patrice's husband, and a lot of times husbands are guilty of killing their wives, so you get to do this.

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We didn't want to come out and say that we had a kidnapping, because we didn't know if you had a kidnapping or not.

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There was nothing that indicated a crime had occurred outside of the location. The only thing that was out of place was her motor vehicle.

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The vehicle was facing westward direction. What was strange about that was all of her customers and her neighbors and families and friends would explain to us that she always parked on this side of the building, and she would always back in, so closest to the side door where she entered every day to come into work.

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There was a lot of theories around why the Chevy Tahoe had been moved.

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Did Patrice move it? Did somebody else just come up and move it after the fact, before we were called?

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You know, somebody rolled up and said, I need a jump. Would that be an explanation for the car being moved? It could very well be.

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We went up to Patrice's shop, and there was just a swarm of just everything going on. There's helicopters flying, and totally freaked out. There was just police everywhere. I mean, it's just like, seeing out of a movie is just weird.

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When I got there and I saw what was going on, it just seemed so chaotic. We were all just crying. We didn't really know where is she, what's going on, who's got her?

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A thorough search was conducted. No Patrice.

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Of course, the hope was that she would be found alive, and that nothing had sinister really happened to her.

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That maybe her life was not as happy as everyone had thought, or she was not as stable as everyone had thought, and she had just run away from it all.

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They did ask me, do you think Patrice would ever leave, and flat out I said no. There's no way she would have ever left Pistol. There's just no way.

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She worshiped that child. There was nothing she would do for him. She was never going to leave him. Never.

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My mother would talk to me about anything. It didn't matter what it was. About two weeks prior, she had said to me, if I was to ever go anywhere, where would you go?

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And I said, I don't know. I mean, my dad's house, I guess. She didn't say she was going to leave, but more of a scenario of what if something happened.

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I didn't think anything of it, you know, at the time, because that's as far as it went.

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Obviously, in these kind of cases, it's a jigsaw puzzle, and it takes time to put the jigsaw puzzle together. Early on, we had to build a timeline for what happened to Patrice.

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Patrice had customers enter shop the entire morning.

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We were able to ascertain from her appointment book who was in the shop.

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First client, Pam Shepard, arrives at the shop for a nine o'clock appointment. Patrice is there. Pam tells us that Patrice seems distracted. It was not very attentive to her.

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About 11 o'clock, Pam Shepard leaves the shop. At 11.10, Paul Cantor arrives at the shop for his haircut.

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He left the shop at 11.27 a.m. and he got a phone call as he was leaving the shop, and we were able to verify that by his cell phone records.

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At 11.35, a customer calls to change an appointment. A customer reports that Patrice was somewhat short on the phone. That was unusual for Patrice. That call lasted about two minutes.

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Based on phone records, the next phone call comes at 11.50. Patrice doesn't answer the phone. So you can draw the conclusion that something's not right here.

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It's critical that we understand what happened in that 13 minutes between 11.37 and 11.50.

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Outside of her shop, around 11.45, you have two different witnesses, independent of each other, which is critical. This is even another car.

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As I came over the hill, I noticed first her SUV, which was normally parked on the side, which was now visible, and a Chevy Lumina, which was pulled directly into the shop.

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The Chevy Lumina was in here, the hood right here. The salon door was open. I did notice the Chevy Lumina did have the Georgia Quail wildlife tag.

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There was a second witness driving by Patrice's shop around the exact same time frame. He believes it's a four-tours, possibly a Malibu.

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There were two ladies that I saw in front of the Lumina.

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A taller, dark-headed lady. She was more like in the middle of the car, and then on the passenger side in the front of the car was an older lady.

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The second witness, he believes he sees a male standing in front, but he does describe shoulder-length hair.

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They had hands on each other. I don't know if one had tripped, if one was pushing one down, if one was helping one up. It just did not look normal.

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These witnesses are credible because they essentially saw the same thing, and they're totally independent of each other.

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One of the detectives looked at me and said, you do realize that you very well could have been one of the last people to see her alive.

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And it broke me. I started crying right there.

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How do you process it? Why didn't I stop?

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If I could have been the last one, why couldn't I have done something? Why didn't I do something?

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I've struggled. I've cried myself to sleep thinking about this.

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The lumina to me holds a key.

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A lot of people told me that it would be okay that she would turn up and she would never leave me at any cost.

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I didn't know what to do.

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I walked through the woods for hours calling her name.

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I had never been without my mother.

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I was a couple of months away from turning 16 when she went missing, and it made me grow up extremely fast after the fact.

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I went through some more times after she was gone.

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You take a lot of things for granted in your life until they're all stripped away.

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Yeah, this was the last home that my mother and I lived in.

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The last time I slept here was the night before she went missing.

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This is a bittersweet memory for me.

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I dealt with a lot of deep issues in this home, but I have a lot of good memories here too.

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I remember the last Christmas I spent with my mother here.

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She always made Christmas kind of a her and I type situation.

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She made sure I got everything I wanted.

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But I also remember having memories here where I wouldn't stay in my room just so I wouldn't have to deal with Rob.

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I was eight or nine when they got married.

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Patrice was so happy. She was just radiant and smiling like you're supposed to be on the day that you get married.

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She thought Rob was the guy that she was supposed to be with.

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When I walked her down the aisle, I cried like a baby.

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I just don't remember.

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And I gave Rob her a to Rob and I just take care of my daughter with him.

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And he said, I will.

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In the first year, Rob was a really nice...

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You know, he tried to be a stepfather.

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Tried to include himself in things I was doing like going to take me to a football practice or whatever.

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Whatever the case may be.

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And then it flipped.

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He turned into a completely different person and acted extremely different towards me.

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He just tried to make me feel that it wasn't good enough.

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He'd walk past my room and just say really crude stuff.

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Many of my friends that would come over would see it and would hear the snagged comments that he would make.

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I went through years of it.

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When I met Rob, he was always overly protective, always hovering whenever he was around.

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Jealous of even her friends' relationships with Patrice.

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She wasn't happy.

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They fought a lot.

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Rob wanted her all to himself.

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He didn't understand why she would give me so much attention and thought that he wasn't getting attention because I was getting it.

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I would watch them fight sometimes.

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If it was ever about me, she wouldn't back down.

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Patrice and I didn't argue. We never argued.

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There's no point in arguing.

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All that does is drive divisions in a relationship.

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I think pistol was enormously jealous for the lack of a different term about the closeness of Patrice's and my relationship with Rob.

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One of the things that we struggled with is she didn't discipline him and he just ran crazy.

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I just didn't see any future in him when I was with him to tell you the truth.

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She inspired me to be a good person.

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I was a good person.

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I was a good person.

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She had spoke about divorce a couple weeks prior to all of this happening because she was unhappy with the relationship and had been for quite a few years up to that point.

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Patrice putting the divorce me is new information.

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She never made that comment to me.

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Sometimes there were issues, but I don't remember the issues.

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I cared not to remember the issues and he had expected to live with her forever.

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We had a whole entire life ahead of us.

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The day after my mom was missing, Rob changed all the locks on the doors on the house.

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He wouldn't let me in to get any clothes at all.

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After Patrice was missing, just as a precautionary measure, I believe I changed all the locks in the house.

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I would bang on the doors, knock on the windows, but no one would come.

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They made me feel really angry and upset at the same time.

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It's still hard for me to believe.

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They didn't want Pistol in the house because I didn't like him.

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And just to be on the safe side, just go stay somewhere else and then we know you'll be safe.

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And I'll know I'm not going to have this constant mental drag on me that you're here and have to put up in your stuff.

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After my mom had been missing, I had to go to the hospital.

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After my mom had been missing, I went to live with my father.

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He's got a small farm, raises a lot of chickens.

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It was rocky during that time.

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My father had gone into depression because my mother was still his best friend.

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And he was hers. They spoke every day.

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There wasn't anything farther than that, but they knew they could always depend on each other.

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And they both loved me.

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And they made sure that I'd always have a mother and a father that supported me, even if they weren't together.

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I started getting more anxious as time went on.

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And I woke up every morning thinking, okay, today's gonna be the day.

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She's gonna pop up and everything's gonna be fine.

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And she's gonna say, you know, look, I had to do this to get a life made for us so I could get away from Rob.

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And we wouldn't have to endure any more of that.

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Every fucking morning, every morning,

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I used to think, never came.

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Every night, I'd sit on the couch and I'd look out at the window saying that hopefully I'd see her.

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over time you realize you know nobody's seeing her nobody's hearing from her

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it's real hard

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it's not only she your friend

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but you don't really know what happened to her

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i didn't give up i never gave up i kept thinking in the back of my mind

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she'll i'll pick up the phone one day and she'll call me or she'll send me a letter with no return

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address or yeah you think all those things of course you do when you love somebody and

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care about somebody you never want to give up

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i think we interviewed everybody that knows patrice financial records phone records every

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can that can be kicked over or touched was and we have looked strongly at a laundry list of suspects

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once you've taken someone you're either gonna kill them or you're gonna get caught

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if it's simple it's that gary hilton attracted our attention after the murder of marita femerson

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as an artist and as a subject that if you're doing this she would like to select your victims

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on an artistic sense he abducted this young girl and her dog uh took her into neighboring

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dalsin county kept her alive for a number of days and brutally murdered her brutally

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gary hilton is a person that uh we know has been in for south county

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he had actually been stopped by one of our deputies on a traffic stop here in for south county

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we learned that gary would call people and essentially con them out of money

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but he would also do that in person and he made the statement one day that his favorite place

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to go was a hair salon

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he would go in and he would ask for money favorite time was lunchtime

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gary hilton doesn't need a motive gary hilton

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hunts for people he hunts for opportunities we've not been able to out by him we've not

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been able to prove that he is not involved but we've not been able to prove that he was involved

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he's certainly a potential suspect you see the only potential no are there others i'm sure there are

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jeremy jones was arrested in immobile alabama for the murder of a female there

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that's what people say on physical travel

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jeremy jones was easy person to talk to he's like like most people like to hunt fish you know he

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talked sports but he had a demon inside that you know he liked to sexually abuse women and he confessed

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to uh probably six to eight murders of women by definition he is a serial killer

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the warehouse and of course was a murderer

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when jeremy jones started to confess to these different murders he talked about how he needed

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to tell us about a hairdresser in georgia the first time you met the trace was that ever shot

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yes did you have done the trace on this yes when i'm hung up i ain't got no integrity

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but now i've got to become the most most cruelest individual person it's like

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jones said he was passing by and decided to approach the beauty shop

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i went to the beauty shop after he came out and killed me

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he told me i need a jump

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for sure to bar

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i had an accident

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i thought it was that killer when she tried he was crying

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jones drew a diagram of where her vehicle was parked and where he parked his vehicle

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and it was an accurate depiction of where it would be

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so you went to this river and uh did what

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i showed this time to reach

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jeremy told the investigators that he threw her in sweetwater creek in douglas county

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we made a pretty extensive search from where he said that he had done something

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cadaver dogs boats searching rescue personnel who are very adept at that

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we didn't find anything in that area

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there have been times that individuals would would come into law enforcement agencies and

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say they have killed someone but as you start to look further than it is not true

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and ultimately jeremy jones recanted his confession

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we found no evidence to link jeremy jones to the kidnapping and murder of patrice indris

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but that does not eliminate jeremy jones as being a suspect

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there were some things he told us that you know i thought was really

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incredible and impossible for someone to know that wasn't there

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i believe he's a strong possibility for patrice's murder

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this is lebanon babdus church built in 41 my mom and daddy was two of the founders of it

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we was building the fellowship hall and we were trying to finish it up and uh

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one of my friends came over and bought me a biscuit and wanted me to come around and eat it

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me and him we come out on the back steps and uh was eating the biscuit and a bunch of buzzers

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down there are flying around and i said i get through eating i'm gonna go down there and

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see what they're flying around about and uh got down there and my buddy said uh i found a deer

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my buddy said what's that up there behind you and i said whore he said right there up to you

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right and i looked and i said it looks like a skull

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i was um i was in school uh uh senior year and um i got a call to go to the uh principal's office

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which wasn't rare for me because you know i was uh kind of a problem at that point

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my father he came in he sat down and i'm going what's going on he said look they uh

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they found your mom today and i'm going okay cool where's she at and he was like no

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they found her remains today and uh

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uh

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it was very hard for me to focus on anything for quite a while after that

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very hard day

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it's still hard

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she died too soon why we don't know

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i'd like to hear her call me and say hey pap how you doing but that don't happen no more

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if you sense heaven enjoying life up there in one day maybe we all get this year

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okay

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we got the call from the dawson county sheriff's office that two volunteers at

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levin non-baptist church had found a uh a skull that they believed to be human

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this is an area that's woods for as far as you can walk

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when patrice's body was found it was december 6 2005 600 days she was she was missing

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from april 15 2004 to december 6 2005 the 600 days on the dot

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we initially had a team here within a matter of hours searching to try to make sure that we find

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every piece of evidence for this entire area here all the way to the bottom of the ravine

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i want it to look like this i want it to be cleared where i can see the dirt

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where there's something embedded in the dirt

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some piece of evidence maybe a bone

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then i can find it and i can collect it

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this particular area where levin non-baptist church is at is very rural very very remote

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it would be difficult over that terrain to carry dead weight but you can't discount that she wasn't

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walked in here so we don't know that patrice was carried in here drug in here or she walked in here

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we don't know

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investigators were here for a day and a half

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206 bones in the body and we left here with slightly less than that

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it's disturbing that patrice possibly laid in the woods for 600 days

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you feel like you didn't do your job you feel like you didn't do enough you feel like you failed the family

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i have different theories as far as what i think happened but

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i told the police that i think rob had something to do with my mother's murder

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i think that uh her trying to get a divorce from rob played a major part in this

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i can only imagine how jealous he would be of her leaving him and possibly going to someone else

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i told the police they needed to look at rob because of what i knew about how she was not as

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happy with rob as she had been in the past i always thought rob had something to do with it

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i have no comment for people who think that i killed patrice because i don't talk to those people

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because i know i didn't patrice knows i didn't and it's physically impossible

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time wise for me to have been involved in it think what you like

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the day patrice went missing i was at home before i went to work i got gas in my car i had

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a receipt the receipt's time stamped her shop was probably 45 minute drive from where i was in

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woodstock getting gas they have when i went through the turnstile at work so they have the

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clock sitting there it's physically impossible for me to go to patrice's shop and get back and get

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gas and get to work and all that stuff it's not going to happen

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what about motive what was my motive we didn't have life insurance on patrice she's 38

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i mean it's you know nice try

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rob andres was thoroughly investigated and we created a timeline for him

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that doesn't eliminate him from from being able to do this but greatly reduces the chances that

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he could have done this it doesn't eliminate a murder for hire but it just doesn't seem probable

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we've uncovered nothing that suggests that at this point

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in my minds i well i think somebody who knew patrice's routine was involved somebody that she

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knew because the place wasn't disheveled wasn't beat up nothing turned over supposedly who's to

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say it was one person to carry her was she kept captive for a while was you know i hate to say

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this but was she somebody's play for a while who knows when she was put out there or how

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someone take a will burrow in a wall right there i don't know

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i don't work off theories i work off the evidence the information the facts

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the patrice andres mystery appeared to have occurred in a 13 minute window

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from the time of the last phone call patrice made at 1137 to 1150 when the next phone call came in

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when patrice didn't answer i strongly believe that patrice was already in the process of

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the event that eventually led to her death

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i want to know what happened in those 13 minutes we know that may is missing from patrice's

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cash register so is a robbery the primary motive i don't think so

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salons are generally not targeted for an armed robber there's generally not a lot of cash on hand

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in a salon but the road itself is very busy people constantly walked into her shop asked for

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directions asked questions about the area it's possible it's just the wrong person walked in

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and realized that this is a prime opportunity and then she was gone the blue car is critical

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that blue car is one thing that we know happened at 1145 and that is in the middle of that 13 minutes

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whether it be a 1992 chevrolet lumina with a georgia wildlife tag

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or whether it's a 99 to 024 tours or chevrolet malibu four door if you know someone that has

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a blue car that that day something was different got home a little bit late and acted extremely

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unusual from any way that this person has ever acted before

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then that's a piece of puzzle we need to know

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we also didn't find patrice's wedding ring the 1.5 carat pear shape

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diamond with two other 14 carat gold rings we believe were attached we would like to find that

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there's aspects of of the patrice andris investigation that we can't discuss that we refuse to discuss

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because we define it as guilty knowledge information guilty knowledge information is

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information that's only known by the person responsible for what happened to patrice

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and by us the investigators themselves that know every aspect of the case

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we can't afford to have a false confession we definitely want to give some form of closure to the family

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this is the location where we had the table where miss patrice's remains were

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i asked the people who took care of patrice's remains what i'd like you to do is a last farewell

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i don't know if that's how i turned it

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is to reassemble her

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lay her off for me when it's here

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the skeletal remains that we received that we placed as best we could in a correct anatomical

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position and then when we had that ready and set i brought mr. robb into this room where he had some

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time with miss patrice i picked up her skeleton from in her head and carried her around for a while

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put her back kisses goodbye

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i think mr. Caldwell and i left he asked me if i was okay to drive i was

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that's the last time i saw patrice anywhere near intact

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probably for a year or longer after patrice was returned to me her ashes

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she stayed in my bed i slept with her it's something that i typically don't share with people

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but she was like my teddy bear because that's how we used to you know that's how we used to sleep

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snuggle together just part back good memories

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and yes i'm protective of patrice and i have her that's a good thing

403
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you should be in here

404
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:14,140
Oh.

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Those are ashes.

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You can see how beat up this box.

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It just, well, it was kept into the box.

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It didn't take it out.

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It was kept onchange.

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There we go.

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There's patrice.

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This small one pound bag

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are the cremains for patrice.

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It's the first time I've seen this bag.

415
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It's somewhat emotional, actually.

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Sorry.

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I'd never share these ashes with anybody,

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particularly Pistol.

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It's been 15 years.

420
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,920
At this point, I've been without her,

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longer than had her.

422
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,920
I don't have her in mind.

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00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Rob's actually got him,

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and that hurts me more every day.

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I couldn't do anything about it.

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Didn't get any pictures or anything of hers.

427
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,920
I didn't get to grow up and leave home like normal

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and be able to come back.

429
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No, I had someone always behind me

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pushing me to be better.

431
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I just hope I'm gonna be half the person she was.

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I just hope I'm gonna be half the person she was.

433
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I think she still hears me.

434
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Sometimes I think she's still here.

435
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She's still right behind me.

436
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Been searching for that closure

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and some justice for having to hurt her.

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That's all I'm looking for.

439
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,920
She's hurt.

440
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,920
I'm sorry.

441
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,920
I'm sorry.

442
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,920
I'm sorry.

443
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,920
I'm sorry.

444
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,920
I'm sorry.